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" janji mursi " dan Gerilya Media untuk koptik ??

Mohamed Morsi, in his press conference after the first round of the presidential elections, spoke in general terms about how the institution of the presidency would include Copts, women, youth and others. He was not specific however about which positions he might give to Copts. 

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentP/4/44639/Opinion/Copts-between-Shafiq-and-Morsi-an-easy-choice.aspx


Sekarang kita akan membahas kalimat diatas.. Itulah sebabnya ketika saya mengatakan bahwa kesimpulan kita bisa simpang siur pada part pertama bila kita hanya membaca sumber diatas..

Saya  sendiri terus mencari apakah betul bahwa morsi mengatakan hal tersebut ?? Atau ada pihak2 lain yang mengemukakan wacana tersebut ??
dan inilah yang saya temukan :


1. Ahmed al-Deif : Penasehat politik Muhammad Morsi

A political adviser of President-elect Mohamed Morsy said a Copt and woman would be appointed as vice presidents.

Ahmed al-Deif told CNN that it would be the first time in Egypt’s history that a woman would be appointed to this position that will be granted powers.

“We didn’t call for establishing an Islamic republic in Egypt. Morsy was very clear on this. He assured [he is] seeking a civilian constitutional country, a civilized one based on respecting cultures, principles and religions,” he added.

Morsy confirmed in his first presidential speech that he will be “a president for all Egyptians” and committed to international agreements. He praised the armed forces, police, judges and victims of the revolution, which he said would be ongoing until achieving all its demands. He also added that people shouldn’t obey him if he broke his promises.

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/morsy-appoint-copt-woman-vice-presidency-says-adviser

2. Langsung di ikuti CNN
http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/25/morsi-adviser-female-and-christian-vps-in-egypt/


3. Magdi Saber : anggota dari koalisi pemuda koptik maspero, 

Saber told Al-Hayat: “It does not really matter to us if a Copt becomes vice   president. 

In a statement, the movement added: “We will give the president the same 100 day period that he touted during his campaign to fulfill his promises and restore the rights of the people; if he succeeds, we will stand by him and support him, but if he fails and deliberately wastes time, then we will oppose him with all the might and means that are afforded to us by law and the constitution. We ask that the Coptic issue be immediately studied and that the problems that have remained hanging for decades be solved. We also ask that the laws that made life impossible for Copts in their own country be repealed.”



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Dari sana, berita itu terus bergulir hingga sampai juga di media kita Indonesia. Pasti timbul beragam perasaan dan pertanyaan untuk itu..

Pencarian demi pencarian terus saya lakukan, hingga ahirnya saya menemukan bahwa ternyata :

Mursi tidak pernah menyatakan hal itu secara pribadi dan langsung

Di bawah ini ada sebuah wawancara langsung dengan mursi yang menyinggung hal tersebut :

Wawancara Muhammad mursi dan Jeffrey Goldberg :

I recently had a conversation with Mohamed Morsy, one of the Brotherhood's senior leaders, in which he refused, to an almost comical degree, to grapple with two simple questions: Could the Brotherhood support a Christian for the Egyptian presidency? Could it support a woman? (The Brotherhood's 2007 draft party platform, from which the organization is now trying to distance itself, makes clear that a Christian could not serve as president of Egypt.)

"Which Christian?" Morsy responded when I first asked.

I explained: not a particular Christian, but any Christian.

"There are no Christians running for president," he said.

Yes, I know. It's a theoretical question.

"This is a nonsense question," he said. So I asked him if the Brotherhood had ideological objections to a woman's running for president.

"Which woman?" he asked.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/new-egyptian-president-on-the-possibility-of-voting-for-a-christian/258917/

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Bahkan dalam sebuah pidatonya saat kampanye mursi menjelaskan :

Mohamed Morsi during Elections Campaign: Jihad Is Our Path, Death for the Sake of Allah Is Our Most Lofty Aspiration, the Shari'a Is Our Constitution
The Internet, Misr 25 TV (Egypt) - May 13, 2012

http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3476.htm


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Dan ini adalah kondisi terakhir :

Executive vacuum: still no vice presidents, prime minister or cabinet



Aboul Fotouh, a former presidential candidate, denied being offered the position of vice president, but said he would not take it unless it came with real power and was not a token post.

Sources close to Nobel prize laureate and the front runner for the premiership Mohamed ElBaradei have made similar statements.

His former campaign coordinator Abel Rahman Yousef said that ElBaradei was yet to receive an offer but he would not take the post if he was not allowed to work independently and have authority over the cabinet, something Yousef said he doubted would happen.

http://thedailynewsegypt.com/2012/07/03/executive-vacuum-still-no-vice-presidents-prime-minister-or-cabinet/

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Apakah  Media sedang menggiring opini publik untuk lebih menekan pihak mursi untuk memilih pilihan yang di inginkan media tersebut ??

mari kita pantau bersama





Janji morsi menjelang putaran dua vs perjuangan media barat ? (Hal yang harus kita cermati)

Copts between Shafiq and Morsi: an easy choice

During the first round of Egypt's presidential elections, the Coptic vote was split; when it comes to the second round there are a number of factors pushing Copts towards Shafiq

Egyptians face a choice between Mubarak-era aviation minister Ahmed Shafiq and the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohamed Morsi in presidential runoffs to be held on 16 and 17 June.

Copts are considered an important factor in deciding who is going to be Egypt’s next president. Will they vote for Shafiq or Morsi? . It is estimated that about 2.5 -3 million Copts voted in the first round and that 50-60% of them are expected to vote in the second and final round.

Rooted in the Coptic mind for a while are fears and concerns of a state governed by Islamists. There has long been mistrust between Islamists, especially the Muslim Brotherhood and Copts. Copts fear being treated as a minority and that their freedoms and rights would be restricted under an Islamic state headed by the Muslim Brotherhood.

On the other hand, Islamists do not believe that Copts should be in high leadership positions according to their interpretation of Islamic sharia. They are many issues that increase the gap between the two sides.

Mohamed Morsi, in his press conference after the first round of the presidential elections, spoke in general terms about how the institution of the presidency would include Copts, women, youth and others. He was not specific however about which positions he might give to Copts.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentP/4/44639/Opinion/Copts-between-Shafiq-and-Morsi-an-easy-choice.aspx

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ternyata setelah terus mengamati perjalanan pemilu mesir... Ada hal yang harus kita cermati. 

kalau baca sampai sini.. kesimpulan bisa simpang siur.. Tapi apa daya tak ada waktu untuk menyambung tulisan ini.. sementara ini aja dulu :-)